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:::: There is nothing on [[Project:Editing guidelines]] to say added information has to also be in JP Wikipedia to be accepted. Whether or not you think it's necessary, is irrelevant, because you don't own this page. Regardless, I already pointed out why the Japanese checking/submittal process doesn't work, or atleast hasn't worked for the past 10–15 years, so why would I even try to use it. Ketsupaihou fulfills all editing guidelines, both on this wiki and Wikipedia itself, and even [[wikipedia:jp:ノート:麻雀のローカル役/出典のない役#文献の強度| the guidelines for local yaku on JP Wikipedia]] (strong sources include books, manga with pro involvement and games with pro involvement; yaku should have a strong source, preferably multiple). There is literally no reason it shouldn't be included on this page. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC) | :::: There is nothing on [[Project:Editing guidelines]] to say added information has to also be in JP Wikipedia to be accepted. Whether or not you think it's necessary, is irrelevant, because you don't own this page. Regardless, I already pointed out why the Japanese checking/submittal process doesn't work, or atleast hasn't worked for the past 10–15 years, so why would I even try to use it. Ketsupaihou fulfills all editing guidelines, both on this wiki and Wikipedia itself, and even [[wikipedia:jp:ノート:麻雀のローカル役/出典のない役#文献の強度| the guidelines for local yaku on JP Wikipedia]] (strong sources include books, manga with pro involvement and games with pro involvement; yaku should have a strong source, preferably multiple). There is literally no reason it shouldn't be included on this page. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 21:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::: Given that you relied on the source from atwiki (weak source), while rejecting the removal result of JP wikipedia page (where more people can check the content). There's already two workaround way to leave your content: the four yaku can be listed in the page of book, or to try to relist it in JP wikipedia. And since you don't even wanna have a try, the topic can be generally stopped here. The quality of content still preserves in Riichi Wiki, regardless if you agree or not. The issue is already pointed out clear: it's never hard to just collect and write definitions one by one, anybody can write a lot of them in just one day, the proof is hardest thing to do and cost the most of the time. You could have rethink if you agree with the necessity of process. --[[User:Kator278|Kator278]] ([[User talk:Kator278|talk]]) 17:50, 14 February 2025 (UTC) | :::: Given that you relied on the source from atwiki (weak source), while rejecting the removal result of JP wikipedia page (where more people can check the content). There's already two workaround way to leave your content: the four yaku can be listed in the page of book, or to try to relist it in JP wikipedia. And since you don't even wanna have a try, the topic can be generally stopped here. The quality of content still preserves in Riichi Wiki, regardless if you agree or not. The issue is already pointed out clear: it's never hard to just collect and write definitions one by one, anybody can write a lot of them in just one day, the proof is hardest thing to do and cost the most of the time. You could have rethink if you agree with the necessity of process. --[[User:Kator278|Kator278]] ([[User talk:Kator278|talk]]) 17:50, 14 February 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::: A temporary page [[Local_yaku/extensions]] can be created for holding more local yaku, considering there're potentially more terms to fit in in the future, for the people to quickly check the definitions while focusing less about the origins. We can first complement the terms and improve them, until it becomes more reliable to fill in the main page. --[[User:Kator278|Kator278]] ([[User talk:Kator278|talk]]) 18:38, 14 February 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Sanma? == | == Sanma? == | ||
This wiki's handling of alternate [[Sanma|sanma]] rulesets is generally quite limited, which extends to this page aswell. The problem is, while alot of rule variations apply to both yonma and sanma, there are alot of rules and yaku that are generally only used in 3-player rulesets. Additionally, some yaku like daisharin and shousharin exist in yonma, but are almost always defined differently when used in sanma. Should these be included in this page, included under their own heading or have their own page entirely? I'd be in favor of the second option. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 14:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | This wiki's handling of alternate [[Sanma|sanma]] rulesets is generally quite limited, which extends to this page aswell. The problem is, while alot of rule variations apply to both yonma and sanma, there are alot of rules and yaku that are generally only used in 3-player rulesets. Additionally, some yaku like daisharin and shousharin exist in yonma, but are almost always defined differently when used in sanma. Should these be included in this page, included under their own heading or have their own page entirely? I'd be in favor of the second option. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 14:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC) | ||