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(→‎Compatability: Clean up compatibility. The discussion about the legality of calling with the last tiles is out of place; I will put it elsewhere.)
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== Haiteihai ==
== Haiteihai ==
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'''Haiteihai''' {{kana|海底牌}} is the very last tile that can be drawn from the regular wall.  This is clearly indicated as the 15th tile left, counting the tiles of the dead wall including the [[dora|dora indicator]].  Typically, this tile resides as the lower of two tiles next to the back end of the dead wall.  Earlier calls for [[kan]] may "alter" the designation of the last tile, as that same bottom tile gets shifted into the dead wall to maintain fourteen tiles after the [[rinshan]] draw.
'''Haiteihai''' {{kana|海底牌}} is the very last tile that can be drawn from the regular wall.  This is clearly indicated as the 15th tile left, counting the tiles of the dead wall including the [[dora|dora indicator]].  Typically, this tile resides as the lower of two tiles next to the back end of the dead wall.  Earlier calls for [[kan]] may "alter" the designation of the last tile, as that same bottom tile gets shifted into the dead wall to maintain fourteen tiles after the [[rinshan]] draw. In some groups, the tile may physically be moved form the live wall into the dead wall to make it more clear when the hand ends, but this generally not done in advanced play.


Likewise, the very last discard is called '''houteihai''' {{kana|河底牌}}, which is subject to the call of "ron" for the houtei raoyui yaku and nothing else.  [[Naki|Tile calls]] of chii, pon, or kan cannot apply to it.
Likewise, the very last discard is called '''houteihai''' {{kana|河底牌}}, which is subject to the call of "ron" for the houtei raoyui yaku and nothing else.  [[Naki|Tile calls]] of chii, pon, or kan cannot apply to it.
If a player calls a kan when there is only one tile left in the live wall, the rinshanpai will be the last draw of the game. In this situation, the rinshanpai is not considered to be the haiteihai, and if the player calling kan wins off of that tile, it will be eligible only for the [[rinshan kaihou]] yaku and not for haitei. The final discarded tile is, however, considered to be the houteihai and is subject to the same rules as normal, including the prohibition on tile calls and the eligibility for the houtei yaku.
A player cannot call a kan after drawing the last tile (either normally or as a result of a kan), because they would need to draw a rinshanpai and doing so would bring the dead wall down to 13 tiles.


== Compatability ==
== Compatability ==

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