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'''Karaten''' {{kana|カラテン}}, or '''empty tenpai''', is a [[tenpai]] hand that cannot win because all possible winning tiles are unavailable.  The "visible tiles" may either be discarded, used as a dora indicator, and/or already exist in one's hand. In addition the tiles may be held in other players' hands or in the dead wall, but these would be unknown to the player.
'''Karaten''' {{kana|カラテン}}, or '''empty tenpai''', is a [[tenpai]] hand that cannot win because all possible winning tiles are unavailable.  The "visible tiles" may either be discarded, used as a dora indicator, and/or already exist in one's hand. In addition the tiles may be held in other players' hands or in the dead wall, but these would be unknown to the player.


Karaten hands are generally considered tenpai for the purpose of [[Ryuukyoku]], except if all four copies of the winning tile are in the player's own hand.
Karaten hands are generally considered tenpai for the purpose of [[ryuukyoku]], except if all four copies of the winning tile are in the player's own hand.


==The fifth tile case==
==The fifth tile case==
When a hand has all four copies of a tile, and is waiting on a fifth copy of a tile, it is often not considered tenpai at all. Example:
When a hand has all four copies of a tile, and is waiting on a fifth copy of a tile, it may not considered tenpai at all. Example:


{{#mjt: 123456789m5555p}} Waiting for: {{#mjt: 5p}} (impossible)
{{#mjt: 123456789m5555p}} Waiting for: {{#mjt: 5p}} (impossible)
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{{#mjt:12m444p678s1180z33m0z}}  Waiting for: {{#mjt:3m}}
{{#mjt:12m444p678s1180z33m0z}}  Waiting for: {{#mjt:3m}}


Similarly, this hand could complete a sequence if there was a fourth 3-pin.
Similarly, this hand could complete a sequence if there was a fifth 3-pin, but all four are part of a [[kan]].


This is subject to rule variation. In some platforms, hands like these still count towards tenpai. They usually don't, though.
This is subject to rule variation. In some platforms, hands like these still count towards tenpai.


===Cases===
===Cases===
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