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:: {{#mjt:12345m66z}} {{#mjt:5'55z}} {{#mjt:77'7z}} | :: {{#mjt:12345m66z}} {{#mjt:5'55z}} {{#mjt:77'7z}} | ||
In this case, since the daiminkan of hatsu finally confirmed an "ensured" daisangen hand in other's view and killed the other possible development of being a non-yakuman: | In this case, since the daiminkan of hatsu finally confirmed an "ensured" daisangen hand in other's view and killed the other possible development of being a non-yakuman: | ||
: {{#mjt:0000z}}, last: {{#mjt:666'6z}}, | : {{#mjt:0000z}}, last: {{#mjt:666'6z}}, formers: {{#mjt:5'55z}} {{#mjt:77'7z}} (Opponent's perspective) | ||
The relationship of liability is no-doubt established for toimen, for becoming the feeder of last required set. | The relationship of liability is no-doubt established for toimen, for becoming the feeder of last required set. | ||
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Due to the criteria for recognizing sekinin barai, the precedential three kans must already exist, and the fourth kan will always be a daiminkan. | Due to the criteria for recognizing sekinin barai, the precedential three kans must already exist, and the fourth kan will always be a daiminkan. | ||
: {{#mjt:3s}}, last: {{#mjt:44'44s}}, formers: {{#mjt:11'11s}} {{#mjt:6'666s}} {{#mjt:666'z}} | : {{#mjt:3s}}, last: {{#mjt:44'44s}}, formers: {{#mjt:11'11s}} {{#mjt:6'666s}} {{#mjt:666'z}}, added kan {{#mjt:6z}} afterwards | ||
: Toimen doesn't become liable, | : Toimen doesn't become liable, the melding doesn't confirm a suukantsu at that moment, even with an added kan afterwards which completed suukantsu. <ref group="note" name="note 1"> | ||
Tenhou used to suggest [http://tenhou.net/0/?log=20070224gm-000b-0000-6388336d&tw=3&ts=5 such controversal liability relationship] in early years. This rule was soon deprecated after then. | Tenhou used to suggest [http://tenhou.net/0/?log=20070224gm-000b-0000-6388336d&tw=3&ts=5 such controversal liability relationship] in early years. This rule was soon deprecated after then. | ||
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: Kamicha doesn't become liable, suukantsu is not completed yet at the moment when he discarded 2-pin. It was a pon of 2-pin and the hand is only a sankantsu, even though an added kan of 2-pin happens afterwards. | : Kamicha doesn't become liable, suukantsu is not completed yet at the moment when he discarded 2-pin. It was a pon of 2-pin and the hand is only a sankantsu, even though an added kan of 2-pin happens afterwards. | ||
Though such pao rule is not commonly used, as | Though such pao rule is not commonly used, as in fact it's hard for opponents to figure out which tile was exactly needed to complete suukantsu. That being said, even though the opponents clearly know they should prevent to feed a fourth kan by avoiding discarding raw unpaired tiles, this may still lead to a plenty of uncertain choices, while unlike the other yakumans they usually have specific alternatives and can be easily avoided. | ||
== Sekinin barai for rinshan kaihou == | == Sekinin barai for rinshan kaihou == | ||
Daiminkan pao for [[rinshan kaihou]] is a variation of the rule. Normally, rinshan kaihou would be scored as a regular tsumo, however this variation forces the player whose discard is called to form a daiminkan to be liable for the full amount of the payment in the event the calling player wins by rinshan tsumo. If rinshan tsumo is not achieved, play continues normally with no player being deemed liable for sekinin barai. While uncommon, some professional mahjong associations use this rule. | Daiminkan pao for [[rinshan kaihou]] is a variation of the rule. Normally, rinshan kaihou would be scored as a regular tsumo, however this variation forces the player whose discard is called to form a daiminkan to be liable for the full amount of the payment in the event the calling player wins by rinshan tsumo. If rinshan tsumo is not achieved, play continues normally with no player being deemed liable for sekinin barai. While uncommon, some professional mahjong associations use this rule. | ||
== References == | |||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* [http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015020203gm-0009-0000-83091f89&tw=3&ts=6 daisuushii ron pao] | * [http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015020203gm-0009-0000-83091f89&tw=3&ts=6 daisuushii ron pao] | ||
* [http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015012609gm-0089-0000-1956db78&tw=3&ts=10 suukantsu tsumo; no pao] | * [http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015012609gm-0089-0000-1956db78&tw=3&ts=10 suukantsu tsumo; no pao] | ||
[[Category:Terminology]] | [[Category:Terminology]] | ||
[[Category:Game rules]] | [[Category:Game rules]] | ||