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'''Haitei raoyue''' {{kana|海底撈月}}, or '''haitei'' for short, is a [[yaku]] scored when a player wins by [[tsumo]] on the last drawable tile from the live wall.
'''Haitei raoyue''' {{kana|海底撈月}}, or '''haitei''' for short, is a [[yaku]] scored when a player wins by [[tsumo]] on the last drawable tile from the live wall.


'''Houtei raoyui'''  {{kana|河底撈魚}}, or '''houtei''' for short, is scored when a player wins by [[ron]] on the last possible discard. The discarded tile does not have to be the tile just drawn by the player.
'''Houtei raoyui'''  {{kana|河底撈魚}}, or '''houtei''' for short, is scored when a player wins by [[ron]] on the last possible discard. The discarded tile does not have to be the tile just drawn by the player.
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Haitei and houtei are mutually exclusive with each other, with [[chankan]], and with [[rinshan kaihou]]. Each of these yaku requires the winning tile to come from a different location (the live wall, a tile added to make a [[shouminkan]], and the dead wall, respectively).  Houtei cannot combine with [[mentsumo]] because it is only winnable via discards.
Haitei and houtei are mutually exclusive with each other, with [[chankan]], and with [[rinshan kaihou]]. Each of these yaku requires the winning tile to come from a different location (the live wall, a tile added to make a [[shouminkan]], and the dead wall, respectively).  Houtei cannot combine with [[mentsumo]] because it is only winnable via discards.


As for [[ippatsu]], it is impossible to call riichi unless there are 4 tiles left in the live wall. If riichi is declared with 4 tiles remaining, and no [[tile calls]] are made, then the riichi declarer will draw the haiteihai. This means ippatsu can be scored with haitei, but not houtei. Tile calls may shift the draw order, but any tile call will interrupt ippatsu.
As for [[ippatsu]], it is impossible to call riichi unless there are at least 4 tiles left in the live wall. If riichi is declared with 4 tiles remaining, and no [[tile calls]] are made, then the riichi declarer will draw the haiteihai on the ippatsu draw. This allows ippatsu to be scored with haitei, but not houtei, since drawing the haiteihai means it is impossible to score houtei. While tile calls may shift the draw order, any tile call will interrupt ippatsu.


== Setting up haitei raoyue or houtei raoyui==
== Setting up haitei raoyue or houtei raoyui==
[[image:Haitei chance.png|250px|thumb|right|[http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2013122508gm-0009-7447-3e04d9d5&tw=3 Example tenpai], with one tile left to draw.]]
[[image:Haitei chance.png|250px|thumb|right|[http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2013122508gm-0009-7447-3e04d9d5&tw=3 Example tenpai], with one tile left to draw.]]


Like any hand, either yaku requires tenpai at the very last draw and/or discard to even have a chance of winning. At this point, the hand can be any hand, even an open hand.  Haitei or houtei would qualify for yaku on each of their own right.
Like any hand, either yaku requires tenpai at the very last draw and/or discard to even have a chance of winning. At this point, any hand in tenpai can win, even a "yakuless" open hand.


== Meaning ==
== Meaning ==
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