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'''Sekinin barai''' {{kana|責任払い}}, or the rule of '''pao''' {{kana|パオ}}, is a liability payment imposed when a player confirms another player's [[yaku]]/[[yakuman]]. It is almost exclusively used for yakuman, but some rulesets  
'''Sekinin barai''' {{kana|責任払い}}, or the rule of '''pao''' {{kana|パオ}}, is a liability payment imposed when a player confirms another player's [[yaku]] / [[yakuman]]. It is almost exclusively used for yakuman, but some rulesets invoke this rule for [[rinshan]]. Not all rulesets use sekinin barai in the first place.


== Rule overview ==
== Rule overview ==
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In this scenario, the discarder is liable for sekinin barai if the yakuman-holder wins their current hand.
In this scenario, the discarder is liable for sekinin barai if the yakuman-holder wins their current hand.


Not all yakuman cause sekinin barai. The list of yakuman that can cause seknin barai varies by ruleset. ([[#Yakuman affected by sekinin barai|See below]] for a list.)
Not all yakuman cause sekinin barai. The yakuman that can cause seknin barai varies by ruleset. ([[#Yakuman affected by sekinin barai|See below]] for a list.)


'''Rinshan'''
'''Rinshan'''
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Nevertheless, unlike daisangen and daisuushi, the tile that determines suukantsu is not self-evident. It is difficult for an opponent to know which tile would complete the 4th kan. While a player may know which tiles 100% cannot be a kan, which tile exactly is uncertain. Based on the above reasons, the pao rule is not commonly used for suukantsu.
Nevertheless, unlike daisangen and daisuushi, the tile that determines suukantsu is not self-evident. It is difficult for an opponent to know which tile would complete the 4th kan. While a player may know which tiles 100% cannot be a kan, which tile exactly is uncertain. Based on the above reasons, the pao rule is not commonly used for suukantsu.


=== Sekinin barai for rinshan kaihou ===
=== Rinshan kaihou ===
Sekinin barai is rarely used for [[rinshan kaihou]].  
Sekinin barai is rarely used for [[rinshan kaihou]].  


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== Judgement of liability ==
== Judgement of liability ==
When the last group of a yakuman is called for an open [[kan]], the discarder is still liable for pao. This may not make sense as first, since the yakuman already existed without needing the kan.
Sekinin barai exists to punish "foolish" discards that ensure a yakuman.
 
However, when the last group of a yakuman is called for an open [[kan]], the discarder is still liable for pao. Even though the yakuman already existed without needing the kan, pao is still applied.


To explain how liability works in terms of "the player is responsible for ensuring a yakuman", it is better to switch to the opponent's point of view. When a yakuman-holder has called for two groups of dragons, daisangen is not guaranteed ''in the opponent's eyes''. Once an opponent discards the third dragon, and it is called for a kan, daisangen becomes guaranteed ''in the opponent's eyes''. So, when discarding a tile used for a kan, pao is still invoked: from the opponent's point of view, daisangen goes from not guaranteed -> guaranteed.
To explain how liability works in terms of "the player is responsible for ensuring a yakuman", it is better to switch to the opponent's point of view. When a yakuman-holder has called for two groups of dragons, daisangen is not guaranteed ''in the opponent's eyes''. Once an opponent discards the third dragon, and it is called for a kan, daisangen becomes guaranteed ''in the opponent's eyes''. So, when discarding a tile used for a kan, pao is still invoked: from the opponent's point of view, daisangen goes from not guaranteed -> guaranteed.
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