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:::: Uumensai: Introduced in two books (both covering the same ruleset), used in two video games, and resembles an MCR hand (not that non-Japanese usage should matter anyhow) – allowed. Ketsupaihou (rinpaihou): Introduced in three books, used in one video game, and resembles an MCR hand – not allowed. What is the logic here? And how is a mahjong association's official ruleset not proof that those rules were actually used? Can you please give an objective/quantifiable way for anyone to be able to decide whether or not a yaku can be listed on this page? I don't want to argue, I just don't get it. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 18:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
:::: Uumensai: Introduced in two books (both covering the same ruleset), used in two video games, and resembles an MCR hand (not that non-Japanese usage should matter anyhow) – allowed. Ketsupaihou (rinpaihou): Introduced in three books, used in one video game, and resembles an MCR hand – not allowed. What is the logic here? And how is a mahjong association's official ruleset not proof that those rules were actually used? Can you please give an objective/quantifiable way for anyone to be able to decide whether or not a yaku can be listed on this page? I don't want to argue, I just don't get it. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 18:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
:::: [[wikipedia:jp:Wikipedia:削除依頼/地獄和了]] --[[User:Kator278|Kator278]] ([[User talk:Kator278|talk]]) 15:05, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
:::: [[wikipedia:jp:Wikipedia:削除依頼/地獄和了]] --[[User:Kator278|Kator278]] ([[User talk:Kator278|talk]]) 15:05, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
:::: That is a discussion from almost 17 years ago, before any of the sources I mentioned above were added to wikipedia. Of course, someone might still not consider it "noteworthy/worth mentioning", but that's a subjective opinion. Do you actually think what is/isn't included in the Japanese wikipedia page should dictate all of our choices regarding this page? Do you realize it has seen only one new addition in those same 17 years? Have you considered that the reason for that might be that, because the original contributors have left the page years ago, their submittal process doesn't work and they've effectively bricked the page? Why should that be our baseline? [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 23:46, 12 February 2025 (UTC)


== Sanma? ==
== Sanma? ==


This wiki's handling of alternate [[Sanma|sanma]] rulesets is generally quite limited, which extends to this page aswell. The problem is, while alot of rule variations apply to both yonma and sanma, there are alot of rules and yaku that are generally only used in 3-player rulesets. Additionally, some yaku like daisharin and shousharin exist in yonma, but are almost always defined differently when used in sanma. Should these be included in this page, included under their own heading or have their own page entirely? I'd be in favor of the second option. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 14:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
This wiki's handling of alternate [[Sanma|sanma]] rulesets is generally quite limited, which extends to this page aswell. The problem is, while alot of rule variations apply to both yonma and sanma, there are alot of rules and yaku that are generally only used in 3-player rulesets. Additionally, some yaku like daisharin and shousharin exist in yonma, but are almost always defined differently when used in sanma. Should these be included in this page, included under their own heading or have their own page entirely? I'd be in favor of the second option. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 14:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
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