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: Ketsupaihou, chinchii toushii, retsuu honitsu and chinroutou chiitoitsu are all taken from the 1957 [[Tokyo rules]], for which I have a primary source for (that you can check from the article). Rentsuu also has [https://w.atwiki.jp/mahjlocal/pages/969.html an additional source] available. These yaku are somewhat obsolete, since they don't really fit with modern scoring rules, but otherwise I don't see an issue with including them here. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 12:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
: Ketsupaihou, chinchii toushii, retsuu honitsu and chinroutou chiitoitsu are all taken from the 1957 [[Tokyo rules]], for which I have a primary source for (that you can check from the article). Rentsuu also has [https://w.atwiki.jp/mahjlocal/pages/969.html an additional source] available. These yaku are somewhat obsolete, since they don't really fit with modern scoring rules, but otherwise I don't see an issue with including them here. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 12:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
== Sanma? ==
This wiki's handling of alternate [[Sanma|sanma]] rulesets is generally quite limited, which extends to this page aswell. The problem is, while alot of rule variations apply to both yonma and sanma, there are alot of rules and yaku that are generally only used in 3-player rulesets. Additionally, some yaku like daisharin and shousharin exist in yonma, but are almost always defined differently when used in sanma. Should these be included in this page, included under their own heading or have their own page entirely? I'd be in favor of the second option. [[User:Tempara-chan|Tempara-chan]] ([[User talk:Tempara-chan|talk]]) 14:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

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Optional yaku

Basically this list will be an expanded version of this one. The old one can be purged in favor of this list. KyuuAA (Talk:キュウ) 21:49, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Oh! Thanks for the notification! :D I'll have a look on that page. Though due to the limitation of yaku-card, I may try to keep the original "section + content" if there's more information we can bring on the page. -- Kator278 (talk) 00:31, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

All Black?

Some of the tile icons the site uses differ from the colors in a standard set, which makes some of the visualizations of hands like All Black not make sense. (Ex, 2p and 4p are generally black tiles but they have some green in this rendering. Not sure if there's any other major differences) SomeDee (talk) 17:42, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for replying late. It's correct that the wiki used the tile image set from other general mahjong which is not standard Japanese one. Not only 24p, pinzu in general does not contain green rendering. It may not be easy to replace all of them at once, but I could replace 24p at first in order to keep consistent to this yaku. --Kator278 (talk) 01:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Should be fully done now. -- Kator278 (talk) 07:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

List of yaku not included in page

This section records the yaku that generally doesn't meet the condition to be included. The reasons may include but not limited to:

  • Lacking of a reliable source. (Usually recorded in a few local-yaku websites without a proper source given.)
  • Almost purely fan-made, only used in very specific matches or games. (e.g. Mahjong games for fun with Super-abilities.)
  • Not used in Japanese mahjong, despite being used in other mahjong variants.

Ketsupaihou

Ketsupaihou 「欠牌和」 (lit. missing tile) is a hand with a penchan or kanchan wait, where 3 of the waiting tiles are already visible on the table.

  • Value: 1 han
  • Example: , Agari: (When three 3-pin have been discarded)
  • Issue: A similar variant exists in MCR (和绝张). Lacking of source about usage in riichi mahjong.

Chinchii toushii

Chinchii toushii 「金鶏奪食」 (lit. golden rooster steals food) is a chankan hand mixed with ketsupaihou.

  • Value: 4 han
  • Example: , Chankan ron:
  • Issue: Lacking of a reliable source.

Rentsuu honitsu

Rentsuu honitsu 「連字混一色」is a special honitsu hand, with sangenpai maching the suit. Hatsu goes with pinzu, haku with souzu and chun with manzu.

  • Value: Mangan or above
  • Examples:
  • Issue: Lacking of a reliable source.

Dorahairi chinroutou chiitoitsu

Dorahairi chinroutou chiitoitsu 「ドラ入り清老頭七対子」 is a chiitoitsu hand with a pair of each of the terminals and a pair of dora.

  • Value: Mangan or above
  • Example: , when the dora is
  • Issue: Lacking of a reliable source.

Chousangen

Chousangen 「超三元」 (lit. Super 3 dragons) is a hand containing all three quads of sangenpais.

When chousangen is not recognized, such hand is scored as a regular daisangen.

  • Issue: Suspicion of invented by fancy name, without decent usage in matches.

Chousuushi

Chousuushi 「超四喜」 (lit. Super 4 winds) is a hand containing all four quads of wind tiles.

  • Value: Triple or quadruple yakuman
  • Example:

When chousuushi is not recognized, such hand values double or triple yakuman as daisuushi suukantsu.

  • Issue: Suspicion of invented by fancy name, without decent usage in matches.

Replays

  1. Chousangen (East 2 Round, North seat)
Ketsupaihou, chinchii toushii, retsuu honitsu and chinroutou chiitoitsu are all taken from the 1957 Tokyo rules, for which I have a primary source for (that you can check from the article). Rentsuu also has an additional source available. These yaku are somewhat obsolete, since they don't really fit with modern scoring rules, but otherwise I don't see an issue with including them here. Tempara-chan (talk) 12:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Sanma?

This wiki's handling of alternate sanma rulesets is generally quite limited, which extends to this page aswell. The problem is, while alot of rule variations apply to both yonma and sanma, there are alot of rules and yaku that are generally only used in 3-player rulesets. Additionally, some yaku like daisharin and shousharin exist in yonma, but are almost always defined differently when used in sanma. Should these be included in this page, included under their own heading or have their own page entirely? I'd be in favor of the second option. Tempara-chan (talk) 14:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC)