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The list includes:<br>
The list includes:<br>
'''1-1''': 11 2 33 45678 999m<br>
'''1-1''': '''11'''2'''33'''45678999m<br>
'''1-3''': 11 2 33 45678 999m
'''1-3''': '''11'''2'''33'''45678999m


Unless there's something I don't understand here, these two entries look identical, where 1-1 is a copy of 1-3.<br>
Unless there's something I don't understand here, these two entries look identical, where 1-1 is a copy of 1-3.<br>
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So if I'm not mistaken, the 1-1 row should be deleted for being incorrect/duplicate.
So if I'm not mistaken, the 1-1 row should be deleted for being incorrect/duplicate.
[[User:SomeDee|SomeDee]] ([[User talk:SomeDee|talk]]) 14:47, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
== Missing configurations? ==
I believe that there are more missing configurations that are unique (not a mirror of another existing configuration) which would make the table look as follows:
{| class="wikitable" style=text-align:center
|-
! Row<br>(Agari-Extra) !! Tenpai !! Yakuman !! Chiniisou
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| Pure ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112345678999m}} || Any numbered 1-9<br>(same suit) || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-2 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1122345678999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:23m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-3 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123345678999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:24m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-4 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123445678999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:369m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-5 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123455678999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:5m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-6 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123456678999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:47m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-7 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123456778999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:69m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-8 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123456788999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:8m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 1-9 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1123456789999m}} || {{#mjt:1m}} || {{#mjt:47m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-1 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1111345678999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-3 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113345678999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:369m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-4 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113445678999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:45m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-5 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113455678999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:4578m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-6 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113456678999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:369m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-7 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113456778999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:578m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-8 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113456788999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:578m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 2-9 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1113456789999m}} || {{#mjt:2m}} || {{#mjt:36m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-1 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1111245678999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-2 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112245678999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || {{#mjt:269m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-4 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112445678999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-5 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112455678999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-6 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112456678999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || {{#mjt:2m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-7 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112456778999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-8 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112456788999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 3-9 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112456789999m}} || {{#mjt:3m}} || {{#mjt:2m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-1 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1111235678999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || {{#mjt:578m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-2 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112235678999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-3 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112335678999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || None
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-5 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112355678999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || {{#mjt:15m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-6 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112356678999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || {{#mjt:7m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-7 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112356778999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || {{#mjt:169m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-8 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112356788999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || {{#mjt:18m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 4-9 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112356789999m}} || {{#mjt:4m}} || {{#mjt:7m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 5-1 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1111234678999m}} || {{#mjt:5m}} || {{#mjt:4m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 5-2 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112234678999m}} || {{#mjt:5m}} || {{#mjt:23m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 5-3 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112334678999m}} || {{#mjt:5m}} || {{#mjt:23m}}
|-
|colspan=4 bgcolor="#AFCDFC" |
|-
| 5-4 ||align=center| {{#mjt:1112344678999m}} || {{#mjt:5m}} || {{#mjt:14m}}
|-
|}
Unless how you're defining mirrors is broader than just simple mirrors (swap 1&9, 2&8, 3&7, 4&6) in some way?
[[User:SomeDee|SomeDee]] ([[User talk:SomeDee|talk]]) 18:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
: The main article in JP.wikipedia has a table list of them.  I suppose, that oughta be copied. [[User:KyuuAA|KyuuAA]] ([[User_talk:KyuuAA|Talk:キュウ]]) 05:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
:: Okay, here's the translated JP list, converted roughly to your table format, using two different methods of duplicate removal that I believe both still preserve all the unique configurations.
:: I imagine what originally happened is, someone copied the JP table and then removed entries too aggressively; i.e., removing 2-1 as a mirror of 1-2, even though chuuren with a removed 1 and an added 2 is a fundamentally different shape vs a removed 2 and added 1.
<div style=display:inline-table>
:: {| class="wikitable sortable" style=text-align:center
|+ Pruned by Yakuman/Agari first (1-9 stays, 9-1 goes)
|-
! colspan=2 | Shape
! colspan=3 | Waits
|-
! Extra !! Tenpai !! Yakuman !! Chiniisou !! Machi
|-
|  || 1112345678999 || 123456789 ||  || style=text-align:left|9-sided
|-
| 2 || 1122345678999 || 1 || 2 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 3 || 1123345678999 || 1 || 3 || style=text-align:left|penchan
|-
| 4 || 1123445678999 || 1 || 47 58 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 5 || 1123455678999 || 1 || 45 || style=text-align:left|irregular 2-sided
|-
| 6 || 1123456678999 || 1 || 36 || style=text-align:left|simple 2-sided
|-
| 7 || 1123456778999 || 1 || 78 || style=text-align:left|irregular 2-sided
|-
| 8 || 1123456788999 || 1 || 47 8 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 9 || 1123456789999 || 1 || 369 || style=text-align:left|simple 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111345678999 || 2 || 1 2 3 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 3 || 1113345678999 || 2 || 369 2 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 4 || 1113445678999 || 2 || 4 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 5 || 1113455678999 || 2 || 25 3 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 6 || 1113456678999 || 2 || 69 2 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 7 || 1113456778999 || 2 || 7 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 8 || 1113456788999 || 2 || 258 3 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 9 || 1113456789999 || 2 || 29 || style=text-align:left|shanpon
|-
| 1 || 1111245678999 || 3 || 14 2 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112245678999 || 3 || 369 2 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 4 || 1112445678999 || 3 || 4 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 5 || 1112455678999 || 3 || 25 3 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 6 || 1112456678999 || 3 || 14 69 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 7 || 1112456778999 || 3 || 7 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 8 || 1112456788999 || 3 || 258 3 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 9 || 1112456789999 || 3 || 14 9 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111235678999 || 4 || 369 1 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112235678999 || 4 || 25 4 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 3 || 1112335678999 || 4 || 3 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 5 || 1112355678999 || 4 || 14 5 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 6 || 1112356678999 || 4 || 36 || style=text-align:left|ryanmen
|-
| 7 || 1112356778999 || 4 || 78 || style=text-align:left|irregular 2-sided
|-
| 8 || 1112356788999 || 4 || 147 8 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 9 || 1112356789999 || 4 || 369 || style=text-align:left|simple 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111234678999 || 5 || 15 || style=text-align:left|shanpon
|-
| 2 || 1112234678999 || 5 || 258 47 || style=text-align:left|5-sided
|-
| 3 || 1112334678999 || 5 || 3 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 4 || 1112344678999 || 5 || 14 5 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|}
</div>
<div style=display:inline-table>
:: {| class="wikitable sortable" style=text-align:center
|+ Pruned by Extra first (9-1 stays, 1-9 goes)
|-
! colspan=2 | Shape
! colspan=3 | Waits
|-
! Extra !! Tenpai !! Yakuman !! Chiniisou !! Machi
|-
|  || 1112345678999 || 123456789 ||  || style=text-align:left|9-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111345678999 || 2 || 1 2 3 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111245678999 || 3 || 14 2 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111235678999 || 4 || 369 1 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111234678999 || 5 || 15 || style=text-align:left|shanpon
|-
| 1 || 1111234578999 || 6 || 147 || style=text-align:left|simple 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111234568999 || 7 || 69 1 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 1 || 1111234567999 || 8 || 18 || style=text-align:left|shanpon
|-
| 1 || 1111234567899 || 9 || 147 || style=text-align:left|simple 3-sided
|-
| 2 || 1122345678999 || 1 || 2 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 2 || 1112245678999 || 3 || 369 2 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112235678999 || 4 || 25 4 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112234678999 || 5 || 258 47 || style=text-align:left|5-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112234578999 || 6 || 369 2 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112234568999 || 7 || 258 7 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112234567999 || 8 || 258 7 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 2 || 1112234567899 || 9 || 36 2 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 3 || 1123345678999 || 1 || 3 || style=text-align:left|penchan
|-
| 3 || 1113345678999 || 2 || 369 2 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 3 || 1112335678999 || 4 || 3 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 3 || 1112334678999 || 5 || 3 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 3 || 1112334578999 || 6 || 23 || style=text-align:left|irregular 2-sided
|-
| 3 || 1112334568999 || 7 || 3 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 3 || 1112334567999 || 8 || 3 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 3 || 1112334567899 || 9 || 23 || style=text-align:left|irregular 2-sided
|-
| 4 || 1123445678999 || 1 || 47 58 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 4 || 1113445678999 || 2 || 4 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 4 || 1112445678999 || 3 || 4 || style=text-align:left|kanchan
|-
| 4 || 1112344678999 || 5 || 14 5 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 4 || 1112344578999 || 6 || 47 || style=text-align:left|ryanmen
|-
| 4 || 1112344568999 || 7 || 14 69 || style=text-align:left|4-sided
|-
| 4 || 1112344567999 || 8 || 14 8 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 4 || 1112344567899 || 9 || 47 || style=text-align:left|ryanmen
|-
| 5 || 1123455678999 || 1 || 45 || style=text-align:left|irregular 2-sided
|-
| 5 || 1113455678999 || 2 || 25 3 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 5 || 1112455678999 || 3 || 25 3 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|-
| 5 || 1112355678999 || 4 || 14 5 || style=text-align:left|irregular 3-sided
|}
</div>
:: [[User:SomeDee|SomeDee]] ([[User talk:SomeDee|talk]]) 16:03, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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