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: Kamicha doesn't become liable, suukantsu is not completed yet at the moment when he discarded 2-pin. It was a pon of 2-pin and the hand is only a sankantsu, even though an added kan of 2-pin happens afterwards.
: Kamicha doesn't become liable, suukantsu is not completed yet at the moment when he discarded 2-pin. It was a pon of 2-pin and the hand is only a sankantsu, even though an added kan of 2-pin happens afterwards.


Though such pao rule is not commonly used, as the fact that it is hard for opponents to figure out which tile was exactly  needed to complete suukantsu. That being said, even though they clearly know they should prevent to complete a fourth kan by avoiding discarding raw unpaired tiles, this may still mean a plenty of choices, unlike the other yakumans which usually have clear alternatives.
Though such pao rule is not commonly used, as the fact that it is hard for opponents to figure out which tile was exactly  needed to complete suukantsu. That being said, even though they clearly know they should prevent to complete a fourth kan by avoiding discarding raw unpaired tiles, this may still mean a plenty of choices, unlike the other yakumans which usually have clear alternatives and can be easily avoided.


== Sekinin barai for rinshan kaihou ==
== Sekinin barai for rinshan kaihou ==

Revision as of 20:53, 2 October 2019

Sekinin barai 「責任払い」, or the rule of pao 「パオ」, forces the player whose discard is used to form an apparent yakuman to be liable for either partial or full payment of the hand if the player who called said discard wins the round. Generally, this applies to aiding the formation of certain yakuman hands, however, there also exists a variation that applies to rinshan kaihou after a daiminkan. The most common occurrence of sekinin barai involves the yakuman, daisangen.

Sekinin barai for yakuman

Pao rule applied.

Point exchanges

There are two possible scenarios when it comes to how points are exchanged:

  • If the yakuman is later won by tsumo, the liable player will pay the full amount of the hand, including any extra points for honba. This is as if ron was called against the liable player.
  • If the yakuman is later won by ron against a non-liable player, that player will pay half the value of the hand, including any extra points for honba. The liable player will pay the other half of the hand.

If playing with rule sets that recognize multiple yakuman, sekinin barai may be invoked only on certain yakuman. Point exchanges happen independently for each yakuman scored with extra points for any honba paid only once. Honba payments are conducted as normal for any normally scored yakuman among the winning hand.

Yakumans with sekinin barai

Daisangen

If a player has called two mentsu of dragon tiles calls for a koutsu/kantsu of the third dragon type, upgrading their hand to an apparent daisangen, the player who dealt into the third dragon call is deemed liable for full payment if the calling player later wins the hand.

, last: , formers:
Shimocha feeds the last set of dragon-tile triplet, he becomes the liable player.

Daisuushi

If a player has called three mentsu of wind tiles calls for a koutsu/kantsu of the fourth wind type, upgrading their hand to an apparent daisuushii, the player who dealt into the fourth wind call is deemed liable for full payment if the calling player later wins the hand.

, last: , formers:
Toimen becomes liable player with confirming the fourth wind-tile triplet.

Judgement of liability

A misunderstanding happens frequently when the last required set was melded with a daiminkan, since this seems to suggest that such liability should no longer be applied, due to the fact that the yakuman already exists even without daiminkan. To understand how liability works with "the responsibility of completing an ensured yakuman", it is better to switch to opponent's view: if a yakuman is ensured in opponent's view, the relationship of liability will be established.

Example:

Supposing a player completed a daisangen, and the hand looks like the following one in his view:

, last: , second: , first: (Main perspective)

Toimen becomes the liable player as the fact that he becomes the feeder of last sangenpai set. But one may try to point out that a yakuman is already completed before this daiminkan happens, which looks like in main perspective's view:

, second: , first: (Main perspective)

Though such proposing is incorrect. The point is, any of other opponents can never know the actual combination of main perspective's hand. In opponent's view, it actually look like:

, second: , first: (Opponent's view)

It is apparently not an "ensured" yakuman (although it may probably be):

1. The hand doesn't suggest he "must" have a concealed triplet of hatsu: (This also suggests why kamicha, the feeder of second require set "haku", doesn't need to be liable for the yakuman hand.)
2. The hand may finally go like this afterwards since the player can discard hatsu and switch his ready tiles (even though this highly seems to not happen):

In this case, since the daiminkan of hatsu finally confirmed an "ensured" daisangen hand in other's view and killed the other possible development of being a non-yakuman:

, last: , second: , first: (Opponent's perspective)

The relationship of liability is no-doubt established for toimen, for becoming the feeder of last required set.

This rule also implies a useful strategy of gameplay:

  • If a melding confirms an ensured yakuman, the opponents should have avoided discarding such tile to get rid of the liability.
  • If a melding doesn't guarantee a yakuman, the opponents can discard it safely without liability.

Yakumans without sekinin barai

In general sekinin barai would not apply to other yakumans, due to the fact that yakuman is not ensured even with all required sets are melded. A common point for these yakuman hands is that they both have some limitation of toitsu (the head pair).

Shousuushi

Honitsu + possible yakuhai hand. Shousuushi is not ensured.

Tsuuiisou

Toitoi + yakuhai + honitsu hand. Tsuuiisou is not ensured.

Chinroutou

Toitoi-nomi hand. Chinroutou is not ensured.

Ryuuiisou

Honitsu + yakuhai hatsu hand. Ryuuiisou is not ensured.

Sekinin barai for suukantsu

Uncommonly found in rule sets, sekinin barai may be invoked on the player discarding into a fourth kantsu of a suukantsu hand: when there's a hand with 3 existed kantsu (sankantsu) and the player claimed the fourth daiminkan, the feeder of fourth kan becomes liable.

, last: , formers:
Shimocha becomes liable for the fact that he completed an ensured suukantsu with his discard.

Due to the criteria for recognizing sekinin barai, the precedential three kans must already exist, and the fourth kan will always be a daiminkan.

, last: , formers:
Toimen doesn't become liable, his melding doesn't confirm a suukantsu, even with a possibility of hatsu kan afterwards. [note 1]
, last: , formers:
Kamicha doesn't become liable, suukantsu is not completed yet at the moment when he discarded 2-pin. It was a pon of 2-pin and the hand is only a sankantsu, even though an added kan of 2-pin happens afterwards.

Though such pao rule is not commonly used, as the fact that it is hard for opponents to figure out which tile was exactly needed to complete suukantsu. That being said, even though they clearly know they should prevent to complete a fourth kan by avoiding discarding raw unpaired tiles, this may still mean a plenty of choices, unlike the other yakumans which usually have clear alternatives and can be easily avoided.

Sekinin barai for rinshan kaihou

Daiminkan pao for rinshan kaihou is a variation of the rule. Normally, rinshan kaihou would be scored as a regular tsumo, however this variation forces the player whose discard is called to form a daiminkan to be liable for the full amount of the payment in the event the calling player wins by rinshan tsumo. If rinshan tsumo is not achieved, play continues normally with no player being deemed liable for sekinin barai. While uncommon, some professional mahjong associations use this rule.

References

Notes:

  1. Tenhou used to suggest such controversal liability relationship in early years. This rule was soon deprecated after then.

External links

Sekinin barai in Japanese Wikipedia
Suukantsu's pao rule in Japanese Wikipedia

Examples