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'''Haitei raoyue''' (海底撈月) or simply '''Haitei''' is a standard yaku, where a player wins with the tsumo on ''haiteihai'', the last drawable tile from the live wall.  As such, this yaku is only accessible via tsumo. The ron variant of this yaku where player wins with ron on the last discarded tile is called [[Houtei]]
'''Haitei raoyue''' (海底撈月) or simply '''Haitei''' is a standard yaku, where a player wins with the tsumo on ''haiteihai'', the last drawable tile from the live wall.  As such, this yaku is only accessible via tsumo.  


== Setting up Haitei raoyue ==
'''Houtei raoyui''' (河底撈魚) is the ron variant to haitei, depends on the last discarded tile.


Like any hand, this yaku requires tenpai to even have a chance of winning. This hand have no particular requirements except tenpai and draw the haiteihai as winning tile.
== Setting up haitei raoyue or houtei raoyui==


== Haitei Raoyue and rinshan kaihou ==
Like any hand, either yaku requires tenpai at the very last draw and/or discard to even have a chance of winning.


Haitei Raoyue cannot be combined with [[rinshan kaihou]], a yaku for calling tsumo on the replacement tile from dead wall after a kan. When winning on the replacement tile after a kan, tsumo is not called on any tile from the live wall, but on a tile from the dead wall.  
== With rinshan kaihou ==
 
Neither yaku cannot be combined with [[rinshan kaihou]], which requires an extra tile draw from from dead wall after a kan.  
 
When winning on the replacement tile after a kan, haitei is applied to a live wall draw but not on a tile from the dead wall.  With regards to houtei, the last discarded tile cannot be called to complete [[mentsu|melds]] or be used to form [[kan|daiminkan]] (open kans).
 
Furthermore, per rule, the dead wall must be maintained at 14 tiles.  However, a kan draw at the very last tile draw or discard would deny the replenishment of a tile from the regular wall to the dead wall.  In other words, a kan draw with the very last tile, followed by drawing the rinshanpai, would deplete the dead wall to 13 tiles.
 
A potential scenario may arise when the second to last tile draw or discard may be legally used to call kan.  In turn, that would leave the very last tile from the regular wall to be shifted into the dead wall as the replacement tile.  If rinshan kaihou does occur, this tile draw may be viewed as the last draw.  However, the last draw must come from the regular wall in order to count as haitei.


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Revision as of 01:57, 6 August 2013

Haitei raoyue and houtei raoyui
Type Yaku
Kanji 海底撈月
河底撈魚
English Win by last draw
Win by last discard
Value 1 han
Speed Very Slow
Difficulty Hard

Haitei raoyue (海底撈月) or simply Haitei is a standard yaku, where a player wins with the tsumo on haiteihai, the last drawable tile from the live wall. As such, this yaku is only accessible via tsumo.

Houtei raoyui (河底撈魚) is the ron variant to haitei, depends on the last discarded tile.

Setting up haitei raoyue or houtei raoyui

Like any hand, either yaku requires tenpai at the very last draw and/or discard to even have a chance of winning.

With rinshan kaihou

Neither yaku cannot be combined with rinshan kaihou, which requires an extra tile draw from from dead wall after a kan.

When winning on the replacement tile after a kan, haitei is applied to a live wall draw but not on a tile from the dead wall. With regards to houtei, the last discarded tile cannot be called to complete melds or be used to form daiminkan (open kans).

Furthermore, per rule, the dead wall must be maintained at 14 tiles. However, a kan draw at the very last tile draw or discard would deny the replenishment of a tile from the regular wall to the dead wall. In other words, a kan draw with the very last tile, followed by drawing the rinshanpai, would deplete the dead wall to 13 tiles.

A potential scenario may arise when the second to last tile draw or discard may be legally used to call kan. In turn, that would leave the very last tile from the regular wall to be shifted into the dead wall as the replacement tile. If rinshan kaihou does occur, this tile draw may be viewed as the last draw. However, the last draw must come from the regular wall in order to count as haitei.

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