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Chanta
Type	Yaku
Kanji	混全帯么九
English	Terminal or honor in each group
Value	2 han (closed); 1 han (open)
Speed	Medium
Difficulty	Medium

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Chanta 「全帯」, short for honchantaiyaochuu 「混全帯么九」, is scored when every tile group and the pair contains at least one terminal / honor tile. The hand must contain at least one honor and one non-terminal tile to score chanta, or it would score the more valuable junchan or honroutou instead. This yaku can also be called chantaiyaochuu 「全帯么九」 or chantaiyao 「全帯么」.

Tile pattern

Waiting for:

Note: This hand is also waiting for , but it would not be chanta.

Formation

By definition, every tile group must include a terminal or honor tile. Therefore, the only tile groups allowed are 1-2-3, 7-8-9, 1-1-1, 9-9-9, and honor triplets. In addition, you must have a terminal/honor pair.

Compatibility

Main article: Yaku compatibility

^ Ippatsu requires riichi to be of any use.

	RCH	DRI	IPP	SMO	TAN	PFU	IPK	ITT	YAK	SDJ	SDO	TOI	SNA	SNK	CHA	JUN	RPK	SSG	HRO	HON	CHN	CHI	RIN	HAI	HOU	CHK
CHA

Chanta is incompatible with tanyao (which requires no terminal/honors) and ittsu (which requires a 4-5-6 sequence). Chanta is similar to junchan; however, the two can never combine as junchan implies a chanta hand. Honroutou likewise implies chanta and is thus incompatible. Chanta with toitoi or chiitoitsu actually forms honroutou instead of chanta, while chanta with chinitsu is actually junchan instead of chanta.

Development

While chanta can be seen as the converse of tanyao, chanta is much slower. This yaku is rarely seen in riichi mahjong, due to a few reasons:

1. Smaller tile acceptance

Middle tiles are more efficient than terminals/honors for hand development. This can be measured by tile acceptance - the more tiles that can be used to form a sequence/pair/triplet, the higher the tile acceptance, and the more efficient the tile (generally) is.

A lone honor tile can only be used in a pair/triplet. Therefore, a lone honor only accepts itself.
A lone 1 accepts 1, 2, or 3. There is no way to get a ryanmen wait off with a lone 1.
A lone 5 accepts 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7. There are two ways to get a ryanmen wait (4-5, 5-6).

Chanta is often stuck with 1's, 9's, and honors, which usually means less efficiency.

2. Cannot use ryanmen waits effectively

A "ryanmen" is two consecutive tiles waiting to complete either side of a sequence, such as 3-4, 4-5, 7-8. Terminals can never be part of a ryanmen shape, as 1-2 and 8-9 are not ryanmen. A ryanmen has twice the acceptance as any other type of basic wait.

Chanta can technically can use ryanmen 2-3 and 7-8. However, it is only half as effective, as you only get chanta with 1/2 of the winning tiles (1 and 9, respectively). Therefore, since chanta cannot use ryanmen at its full potential, it is slower to develop than a regular hand. Plus, in order to guarantee chanta in tenpai, your hand must have a bad wait (<= 4 tiles left in the wall).

3. Not valuable

Since chanta is so slow, and only worth 2 han (even less when opened), it usually isn't worth the effort. Even without considering riichi, there are easier ways to get 2 han, such as tanyao + pinfu, pinfu + 1 dora, pinfu + iipeikou, and so on. Therefore, players will rarely go for chanta. Chanta is even less common when red fives are used, since tanyao + 1 aka dora is already worth as much as chanta.

When to go for chanta

Chanta can be good to aim for when:

You need a quick hand, and chanta/junchan is your only realistic way your hand can complete open.
- Chanta/junchan is the fastest way to complete your hand at all (e.g. hand with many penchans and terminal/honor pairs)
You happen to get most of the required tiles already (e.g. 123 sanshoku with other terminals/honors mixed in).
You were going for kokushi musou, but kokushi became impossible early in the round, and you are desperate to win.

External links

混全帯ヤオ九

Chanta in Japanese Wikipedia

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 {{Infobox yaku
 |type        = Yaku
-|kanji       = 全帯么
+|kanji       = 混全帯么九
-|english     = Terminal or honor in each meld
+|english     = Terminal or honor in each group
 |value       = 2 han (closed)<br>1 han (open)
 |yakuSpeed   = Medium
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 }}
-'''Chantaiyao''' {{kana|全帯么}} is a [[terminal]] and [[jihai|honor]] based [[yaku]].  For this yaku, every [[mentsu|tile group]] must contain at least one [[terminal]] or [[jihai|honor]] tile.  This yaku is more commonly referred by its shorter name, '''chanta''' {{kana|チャンタ}}.
+'''Chanta''' {{kana|全帯}}, short for '''honchantaiyaochuu''' {{kana|混全帯么九}}, is scored when every [[tile group]] and the [[pair]] contains at least one [[terminal]] / [[honor]] tile. The hand must contain at least one honor and one non-terminal tile to score chanta, or it would score the more valuable [[junchan]] or [[honroutou]] instead. This yaku can also be called '''chantaiyaochuu''' {{kana|全帯么九}} or '''chantaiyao''' {{kana|全帯么}}.
 ==Tile pattern==
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 ==Formation==
-By definition, every [[mentsu|tile group]] must include a [[terminal]] or [[jihai|honor]] tile.  So combinations of tile groups involving 1-2-3, 7-8-9, 1-1-1, 9-9-9, and/or any honor [[jantou|pairs]]/[[koutsu|triplet]] applies here.  This brings about the limitations of the terminal tiles, by which they're at the ends of the 1-9 number scale.  Often, this yaku is particularly made easier with [[Naki|tile calls]]; but closed hands are very much doable.
+By definition, every [[tile group]] must include a [[terminal]] or [[honor]] tile. Therefore, the only tile groups allowed are 1-2-3, 7-8-9, 1-1-1, 9-9-9, and [[honor]] triplets. In addition, you must have a terminal/honor pair.
-=== Compatability ===
+== Compatibility ==
-{{main|Yaku compatability}}
+{{main|Yaku compatibility}}
-{{yakuheader}}
+{{Yaku compatibility table|CHA}}
-| CHA || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{or}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} ||bgcolor="000000"| || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{no}} || {{no}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}} || {{yes}}
-|}
-Chanta's pattern is similar to [[junchan]]; however, the two can never combine as chanta requires honor tiles, while junchan does not.  Compatibility with [[sanshoku doukou]] is limited to the collection of either tile groups of 1s or 9s among the three suits; mix this combination with honor tiles, and it may have a good chance of [[honroutou]] as well.  Chanta with [[toitoi]] actually forms honroutou.
+Chanta is incompatible with [[tanyao]] (which requires no terminal/honors) and [[ittsu]] (which requires a 4-5-6 sequence). Chanta is similar to [[junchan]]; however, the two can never combine as junchan implies a chanta hand. [[Honroutou]] likewise implies chanta and is thus incompatible. Chanta with [[toitoi]] or [[chiitoitsu]] actually forms honroutou instead of chanta, while chanta with [[chinitsu]] is actually junchan instead of chanta.
+==Development==
+While chanta can be seen as the converse of [[tanyao]], chanta is much slower. This yaku is rarely seen in riichi mahjong, due to a few reasons:
+'''1. Smaller tile acceptance'''
+Middle tiles are more [[tile efficiency|efficient]] than terminals/honors for hand development. This can be measured by [[Ukeire|tile acceptance]] - the more tiles that can be used to form a sequence/pair/triplet, the higher the tile acceptance, and the more efficient the tile (generally) is.
+*A lone honor tile can only be used in a pair/triplet. Therefore, a lone honor only accepts itself.
+*A lone 1 accepts 1, 2, or 3. There is no way to get a ryanmen wait off with a lone 1.
+*A lone 5 accepts 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7. There are two ways to get a ryanmen wait (4-5, 5-6).
+Chanta is often stuck with 1's, 9's, and honors, which usually means less efficiency.
+'''2. Cannot use [[ryanmen]] waits effectively'''
+A "[[ryanmen]]" is two consecutive tiles waiting to complete either side of a sequence, such as 3-4, 4-5, 7-8. Terminals can never be part of a ryanmen shape, as 1-2 and 8-9 are not ryanmen. A ryanmen has twice the acceptance as any other type of [[Machi#Basic_wait_patterns|basic wait]].
+Chanta can technically can use ryanmen 2-3 and 7-8. However, it is only half as effective, as you only get chanta with 1/2 of the winning tiles (1 and 9, respectively). Therefore, since chanta cannot use ryanmen at its full potential, it is slower to develop than a regular hand. Plus, in order to guarantee chanta in [[tenpai]], your hand must have a bad wait (<= 4 tiles left in the wall).
+'''3. Not valuable'''
+Since chanta is so slow, and only worth 2 han (even less when opened), it usually isn't worth the effort. Even without considering [[riichi]], there are easier ways to get 2 han, such as tanyao + [[pinfu]], pinfu + 1 dora, pinfu + [[iipeikou]], and so on. Therefore, players will rarely go for chanta. Chanta is even less common when [[red five]]s are used, since tanyao + 1 aka dora is already worth as much as chanta.
+===When to go for chanta===
+Chanta can be good to aim for when:
+*You need a quick hand, and chanta/junchan is your only realistic way your hand can complete open.
+**Chanta/junchan is the fastest way to complete your hand at all (e.g. hand with many [[penchan]]s and terminal/honor pairs)
+*You happen to get most of the required tiles already (e.g. 123 [[sanshoku]] with other terminals/honors mixed in).
+*You were going for [[kokushi musou]], but kokushi became impossible early in the round, and you are desperate to win.
 ==External links==
-{{jpwiki|全帯么}}
+{{jpwiki|混全帯ヤオ九}}
 [[Category: Yaku]]
 {{Navbox yaku}}